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    Link Between Taxation, Unemployment Is Absent

    By Jonathan Weisman

    When President Bill Clinton raised taxes in 1993, the unemployment rate dropped, from 6.9 to 6.1 percent, and kept falling each of the next seven years. When President Bush cut taxes in 2001, the unemployment rate rose, from 4.7 to 5.8 percent, then drifted to 6 percent last year when taxes were cut again.

    "The bottom line is, cuts in taxes lead to economic growth, which leads to improvements in the labor market to levels that are better than they otherwise would have been," said Mark J. Warshawsky, acting assistant Treasury secretary for economic policy.

    But finding the proof in historical data is difficult, conceded Eric M. Engen, a Republican economist at the American Enterprise Institute.

    In 1981, President Ronald Reagan again slashed taxes. Taxation fell from 19.6 percent of the economy that year to 17.4 percent in 1983. The unemployment rate, however, rose over that period, from 7.6 percent to 9.6 percent. By 1989, taxation had drifted upward again, to 18.3 percent of the economy, but unemployment had fallen to 5.3 percent.

    The Clinton tax increase was focused on upper-income households, but it included a sizable increase in the earned income credit for low-wage workers, making it more profitable for them to find and keep jobs.

    The issue has become particularly relevant as Congress debates budget resolutions that would extend tax cuts that otherwise would expire over the next five years, and as Bush clashes daily with Sen. John F. Kerry (Mass.), his Democratic rival, over tax policies and job creation. The Senate voted Wednesday night to place new barriers on future tax cuts.
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    Norman Chad, syndicated columnist: “Sports radio, reflecting our sinking culture, spends entire days advising managers and coaches, berating managers and coaches, firing managers and coaches and searching the countryside for better middle relievers. If they just redirected their energy toward, say, crosswalk-signal maintenance, America would be 2 percent more livable.”

    "The best argument against democracy," someone (Churchill?) said, "is a five minute conversation with the average voter."

  • #2
    You are just begging to get shit on, aren't you?

    Moon

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    • #3
      Republican ideology is wonderful, but It's hard to argue against the facts!

      Therefore: I expect the silence from the opposition to be deafening!
      Norman Chad, syndicated columnist: “Sports radio, reflecting our sinking culture, spends entire days advising managers and coaches, berating managers and coaches, firing managers and coaches and searching the countryside for better middle relievers. If they just redirected their energy toward, say, crosswalk-signal maintenance, America would be 2 percent more livable.”

      "The best argument against democracy," someone (Churchill?) said, "is a five minute conversation with the average voter."

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      • #4
        Or they've decided to ignore you, not because you've "won" but because you are a dolt not worth their time?
        When you say to your neighbor, "We're having a loud party on Saturday night if that's alright with you," what you really mean is, "We're having a loud party on Saturday night."

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        • #5
          So one Republican economist concedes that the theory does not work, so therefore it must be right. I totally forgot too that the tax rate is the only driving force behind the level of unemployment too.

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          • #6
            Taxes and tax revenue

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            • #7
              Dolts ignore history!

              Winston, you are nothing but a tool!
              Norman Chad, syndicated columnist: “Sports radio, reflecting our sinking culture, spends entire days advising managers and coaches, berating managers and coaches, firing managers and coaches and searching the countryside for better middle relievers. If they just redirected their energy toward, say, crosswalk-signal maintenance, America would be 2 percent more livable.”

              "The best argument against democracy," someone (Churchill?) said, "is a five minute conversation with the average voter."

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              • #8
                Nick, how long do you envision for tax increases or cuts to take effect on the economy?
                Un-Official Sponsor of Randy Choate and Kevin Siegrist

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                • #9
                  taxcut-jobscreation
                  Norman Chad, syndicated columnist: “Sports radio, reflecting our sinking culture, spends entire days advising managers and coaches, berating managers and coaches, firing managers and coaches and searching the countryside for better middle relievers. If they just redirected their energy toward, say, crosswalk-signal maintenance, America would be 2 percent more livable.”

                  "The best argument against democracy," someone (Churchill?) said, "is a five minute conversation with the average voter."

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                  • #10
                    Is that your answer?

                    Everytime I try and give you another chance, engage in discussion, you prove to be the same.
                    Un-Official Sponsor of Randy Choate and Kevin Siegrist

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                    • #11
                      You can't make that assertion based on only one variable. Under your logic, tax cuts was the driving force behind the job growth under Reagan. Thanks for proving my point. The fact of the matter is, I didn't agree with the timing of Bush's tax cuts. You simply can't mix Keynseian and Supply-Side economics, it doesn't work. Much of the job growth, or lack there of, during Bush can be attributed to the fact that too many people were hired during the internet bubble and companies simply overexpanded. Bush inherited a recession and it was simply a matter of companies laying off the people who were hired during the internet boom. Last in, first out. These people weren't qualified for the jobs and are having trouble finding something that meets their standard of work.

                      Companies are also reluctant to hire new employees because they are afraid of having to lay off more people because they are afraid of over expansion. For that reason, productivity has increased tremendously as has the number of hours worked per work week. This explains why the GDP has gone up as has company earnings, but job growth hasn't. Companies are simply holding on to their workers and working them more. It's hard to blame Bush solely for that.

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                      • #12
                        Nick - we've seen how when the conservatives think they've got you, they'll descend on you like a pack of hyenas, each crowding out the other to get their shots in.

                        Their absence here is telling. They've got nothing.
                        2005 Mandatory Loyalty Oath: I love America, our troops, baseball, Moms, and certain pies. I want no harm to come to any of those institutions, nor do I take any glee in their demise.

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                        • #13
                          Nick, how long do you envision for tax increases or cuts to take effect on the economy?
                          Immediate effect: The Clinton tax increase was focused on upper-income households, but it included a sizable increase in the earned income credit for low-wage workers, making it more profitable for them to find and keep jobs.

                          Immediate effect: A permanent tax cut targeted at the middle class-- not the $500,000+ (non-small-business-owners).

                          No effect on jobs, except home construction, boats, etc.: Bush's tax cuts!
                          Norman Chad, syndicated columnist: “Sports radio, reflecting our sinking culture, spends entire days advising managers and coaches, berating managers and coaches, firing managers and coaches and searching the countryside for better middle relievers. If they just redirected their energy toward, say, crosswalk-signal maintenance, America would be 2 percent more livable.”

                          "The best argument against democracy," someone (Churchill?) said, "is a five minute conversation with the average voter."

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Trigfunctions@Mar 15 2004, 10:48 AM
                            Nick - we've seen how when the conservatives think they've got you, they'll descend on you like a pack of hyenas, each crowding out the other to get their shots in.

                            Their absence here is telling. They've got nothing.
                            Trig, you know that's not true.

                            I, however, am more interested in MVP 2004 right now =]
                            When you say to your neighbor, "We're having a loud party on Saturday night if that's alright with you," what you really mean is, "We're having a loud party on Saturday night."

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by nick2@Mar 15 2004, 10:55 AM
                              Nick, how long do you envision for tax increases or cuts to take effect on the economy?
                              Immediate effect: The Clinton tax increase was focused on upper-income households, but it included a sizable increase in the earned income credit for low-wage workers, making it more profitable for them to find and keep jobs.

                              Immediate effect: A permanent tax cut targeted at the middle class-- not the $500,000+ (non-small-business-owners).

                              No effect on jobs, except home construction, boats, etc.: Bush's tax cuts!
                              For now, lets treat this as a fiscal matter, not political.

                              The question was, do you realistically expect an immediate impact on the economy from tax adjustments, or do you think it may take a few years to feel the complete effect?
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