Carpenter/Williams/Marquis Contracts....

[SLUBLUE]

do we or woody have an option on next year?

do we have Carpenter or Marquis after this year?

[bigJOE]

i think we only signed carpenter to a 2 year contract. this would be the last of those years.

as for marquis, he's only been in the league like 3 years, so he'd be restricted to us for another 2 or 3 years.

[Iowa_Card]

I believe Woody has an $8 milllion team option for next year.

I believe Carpenter's team option of $2 million for this year (from his prior contract) was declined and he re-negotiated a 2 year contract.

[Weird_English_Guy]

Originally posted by Iowa_Card@Mar 10 2004, 08:47 AM
I believe Carpenter's team option of $2 million for this year (from his prior contract) was declined and he re-negotiated a 2 year contract.

That is what I thought too.

[WinstonSmith]

Originally posted by Weird_English_Guy+Mar 10 2004, 08:49 AM-->

QUOTE(Weird_English_Guy @ Mar 10 2004, 08:49 AM)

[Iowa_Card]

Originally posted by WinstonSmith@Mar 10 2004, 08:51 AM
And I'm sure Woody is gone. I didn't even think we had a team option for next year.

According to this site: http://www.bluemanc.demon.co.uk/base...bcontracts.htm

Woody Williams RHP STL Signed Nov 2002 - 2 years/$14.9M
2003: $6.0M
2004: $8.0M
2005: Team option $8.0M or $0.9M buyout

[SLUBLUE]

so potentially, we can sweet talk woody into not retiring and have carpenter and marquis....is that what i'm hearing

[WinstonSmith]

If you want to pay Woody $8M.

Maybe we could lose him and Morris, go and get a true #1.

Then combine that with Carpenter, Marquis, Haren and Ankiel/Narveson/Calero/Ryan/SomeOtherYoungGuy.

[SLUBLUE]

Originally posted by WinstonSmith@Mar 10 2004, 09:16 AM
If you want to pay Woody $8M.

Maybe we could lose him and Morris, go and get a true #1.

Then combine that with Carpenter, Marquis, Haren and Ankiel/Narveson/Calero/Ryan/SomeOtherYoungGuy.

leeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh hern an dez?

mayhap?

[Iowa_Card]

Originally posted by WinstonSmith@Mar 10 2004, 09:16 AM
If you want to pay Woody $8M.

Maybe we could lose him and Morris, go and get a true #1.

Then combine that with Carpenter, Marquis, Haren and Ankiel/Narveson/Calero/Ryan/SomeOtherYoungGuy.

Winston,

The question was whether Woody had on option for next year. He does.

I'm making no claim to the Cardinals picking that option up. But, nothing is preventing the Cardinals and Williams renegotiating a 2 year deal at, say, $4 million per year. The Cardinals more than likely won't exercise the option, whether Williams pitches well or not. I wouldn't, however, mark him off as a starter for the Cards in 2005.

[Iowa_Card]

Originally posted by SLUBLUE+Mar 10 2004, 09:26 AM-->

QUOTE(SLUBLUE @ Mar 10 2004, 09:26 AM)

[WinstonSmith]

Iowa. I wan't actually talking to you nor denigrating Woody pitching for the Cards. =]

I was surprised he had an option, and I just never imagined the Cards would pick it up.

We're already paying him until 2025 or something =]

I thought I had heard many times that when he signed this latest 2 year deal, he was going to retire.

[Iowa_Card]

Originally posted by WinstonSmith@Mar 10 2004, 09:43 AM
Iowa. I wan't actually talking to you nor denigrating Woody pitching for the Cards. =]

I was surprised he had an option, and I just never imagined the Cards would pick it up.

We're already paying him until 2025 or something =]

I thought I had heard many times that when he signed this latest 2 year deal, he was going to retire.

I've never heard about the retirement talk, but if that's the case, then fine by me.

We've got some pitchers in the minors who are ready now to be in the rotation. Then again, if he decides to stick around another year or two, at a cheap enough price, then I wouldn't mind him in the rotation either.

[WinstonSmith]

Do we agree Morris is gone?

[ElviswasaBluesFan]

If the Cardinals are out of the race at the trade deadline, I would like to see Woody or Morris or both moved for prospects and give some of these young guys a chance. Won't happen, but I can dream can't I?

I'm not too sure Morris is re-signing next year.