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    I'm amazed not only that many people still believe this but that some of them are found in places other than American Nazi Party meetings.

    Mel can't be happy about this.


    Mr. Gibson: Holocaust Mostly 'Fiction'
    Feb 19, 6:02 PM EST

    Associated Press

    Days before the release of Mel Gibson's film about the death of Jesus, which some critics say could fuel anti-Semitism, his father has told an interviewer that the Holocaust was mostly "fiction."

    Steve Feuerstein — host of "Speak Your Piece!" — said he interviewed Hutton Gibson for a segment of his show to be broadcast Monday by the small Talkline Communications Network.

    According to a transcript released by the network, Hutton Gibson said, "It's all — maybe not all fiction — but most of it is," when asked about his views on the Holocaust.

    He added: "They claimed that there were 6.2 million (Jews) in Poland before the war and after the war there were 200,000, therefore he (Hitler) must have killed 6 million of them.

    They simply got up and left. They were all over the Bronx and Brooklyn and Sydney and Los Angeles."

    The interview comes at a sensitive time for Mel Gibson, whose epic "The Passion of the Christ" is due to open Wednesday.

    Some Jewish leaders say the movie could fuel anti-Semitism for its portrayal of Jews' role in the crucifixion, while conservative Christians have praised it as a moving depiction of Christ's death.

    Gibson, who produced, directed and co-wrote the film, has said repeatedly that he is not anti-Semitic and that the project was a deeply personal expression of his own faith.

    Hutton Gibson has an unpublished phone number at his home outside Houston and could not be reached for comment. Alan Nierob, a spokesman for Mel Gibson, declined to comment on the interview.

    Hutton Gibson follows a tiny wing of traditionalist Catholicism that views the modernizing reforms of the Second Vatican Council as a conspiracy between Jews and Masons to take over the church.

    The elder Gibson has stirred controversy in previous interviews with remarks on the Holocaust and Judaism, but had kept quiet in the months leading up to the release of "The Passion."

    In this latest interview, Gibson said Jews want to take over the world. He did not know why Jews would want to achieve that, but said "it's all about control. They're after one world religion and one world government."

    Asked in media interviews whether he shares his father's views, Mel Gibson has said that he loves his father and will not speak against him.

    Zev Brenner, owner of Talkline, which he calls a Jewish network, has been calling for a boycott of all of Mel Gibson's movies.



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  • #2
    It's his Dad.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by pgrote@Feb 20 2004, 05:07 PM
      It's his Dad.
      More sauce for the goose.
      Sponsor of Alex Pieterangelo.

      ..."I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered." George Best

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      • #4
        I'm looking forward to seeing the movie.
        Make America Great For Once.

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        • #5
          It's disgraceful for those bastards to badger his father.
          And, frankly, it has never occured to me that "winning" a debate is important, or that I should be hurt when someone like Airshark or kah, among others (for whom winning a pseudo debate or declaring intellectual superiority over invisible others is obviously very important) ridicule me.

          -The Artist formerly known as King in KC

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          • #6
            Oh no these remarks might mgiht make the mighty Holocaust industry lose some of its profits.

            I have no doubt there were many people murdered in Germany because of ethnic and religious reasons but I do have a problem with the jewish people exploiting this fact and exaggerating their hardships and downplaying those of others.

            6 million is an absurd number. It is fiction. 2 million at most died and certainly not even a quarter of those were executed in gas chambers and the like. 2 million is still a big number, why wouldn't they want it to be accurate? Why do they insist on the 6 million? Why do they insist on telling the obvious fiction of the gas chambers and furnaces? It is a fact that the gas chamber at Aushwitz was built after the war in 1948. What is the point of exaggerating claims that can be easily researched? What is the point of propagating lies that Hitler and Nazis wanted to kill every Jew? These are just not true.

            Holocaust was a tragedy but no one alive had anything to do with it besides a few thousand 80 and 90 year old survivors. The Holocaust industry sickens me. Gaining financially over collective guilt beaten into our heads. The Holocaust and by extension the Jewish suffering has been raised to a level above all others. Another example of Jewish Supremacy so prevalent in our society, other people pain is marginalized, the Blacks or Native Americans who suffer here are less important than Jews suffering a world away.

            It lucky we are in the US. In most of the rest of the world I would be jailed for comments like these.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by thetorch@Feb 20 2004, 06:43 PM
              It lucky we are in the US. In most of the rest of the world I would be jailed for comments like these.
              And lucky for us we can just ignore you.
              Go Cards ...12 in 13.


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              • #8
                Torch,

                If ONE person was executed as part of the Holocaust, that's one too many.
                Make America Great For Once.

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                • #9
                  6 million is an absurd number. It is fiction. 2 million at most died and certainly not even a quarter of those were executed in gas chambers and the like. 2 million is still a big number, why wouldn't they want it to be accurate? Why do they insist on the 6 million? Why do they insist on telling the obvious fiction of the gas chambers and furnaces? It is a fact that the gas chamber at Aushwitz was built after the war in 1948. What is the point of exaggerating claims that can be easily researched? What is the point of propagating lies that Hitler and Nazis wanted to kill every Jew? These are just not true.
                  Cites?

                  Thanks,
                  Moon

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by thetorch@Feb 20 2004, 06:43 PM
                    Why do they insist on the 6 million?
                    Why not?

                    Does it matter? As you pointed out it was a hella lotta people.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by thetorch@Feb 20 2004, 06:43 PM
                      Oh no these remarks might mgiht make the mighty Holocaust industry lose some of its profits.

                      I have no doubt there were many people murdered in Germany because of ethnic and religious reasons but I do have a problem with the jewish people exploiting this fact and exaggerating their hardships and downplaying those of others.

                      6 million is an absurd number. It is fiction. 2 million at most died and certainly not even a quarter of those were executed in gas chambers and the like. 2 million is still a big number, why wouldn't they want it to be accurate? Why do they insist on the 6 million? Why do they insist on telling the obvious fiction of the gas chambers and furnaces? It is a fact that the gas chamber at Aushwitz was built after the war in 1948. What is the point of exaggerating claims that can be easily researched? What is the point of propagating lies that Hitler and Nazis wanted to kill every Jew? These are just not true.

                      Holocaust was a tragedy but no one alive had anything to do with it besides a few thousand 80 and 90 year old survivors. The Holocaust industry sickens me. Gaining financially over collective guilt beaten into our heads. The Holocaust and by extension the Jewish suffering has been raised to a level above all others. Another example of Jewish Supremacy so prevalent in our society, other people pain is marginalized, the Blacks or Native Americans who suffer here are less important than Jews suffering a world away.

                      It lucky we are in the US. In most of the rest of the world I would be jailed for comments like these.
                      you are a complete quack Torch.
                      Are you on the list?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by thetorch@Feb 20 2004, 06:43 PM
                        Oh no these remarks might mgiht make the mighty Holocaust industry lose some of its profits.
                        What is it going to take to get this guy banned? Swastikas?

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                        • #13
                          I actually agree with part of his post, maybe I am wrong, if so please let me know.
                          But I on the surface, without going into this too deep, agree with the statement...

                          The Holocaust and by extension the Jewish suffering has been raised to a level above all others. Another example of Jewish Supremacy so prevalent in our society, other people pain is marginalized, the Blacks or Native Americans who suffer here are less important than Jews suffering a world away.


                          Native Americans were slaughtered almost out of existence, and today have NO Nation of their own.
                          Blacks, well I don't even have to get into that do I? Our Nation took people and enslaved them, hung then, tortured them all within our laws.

                          I am NOT saying that any of the stuff about the Holocaust being fake is true, clearly that is a lie, but in this country it sure seems to me we make more out of what happened in WW2, than what we do about things that our own country did to other people.
                          And if we really want to get into it, the oppression we cause by supporting brutal dictators today.
                          Be passionate about what you believe in, or why bother.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by thetorch@Feb 20 2004, 06:43 PM
                            What is the point of propagating lies that Hitler and Nazis wanted to kill every Jew? These are just not true.

                            Read this asswipe and come back and tell us what Hitler wanted to do.

                            Mein Kampf
                            Go Cards ...12 in 13.


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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by TTB+Feb 20 2004, 09:25 PM-->
                              QUOTE(TTB @ Feb 20 2004, 09:25 PM)
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