In our town, we love to wallow in our mediocrity

[007]

Read all aboot'it

[lasvegasreb]

Thanks, 007, for that post. McCllelan is a treasure.

Whoever decided to pay that blowhart $75,000 is stupid. First of all, there's a certain superiority complex of anybody on the coast who has never appreciated a Midwest town. Understanding this, why would anybody pay a Malibu guy to come to STL? Stupid. I find most people in Malibu equally annoying as Joel apparently finds St. Louis.

While this guy's ideas of urban renewal, as well as Richard Florida's, are interesting, the idea that all cities should follow the same path for "enlightened growth" is ridiculous. I'm of the belief that St. Louis will do much better in 5-10-15 years when the land prices on the Coast become too outrageous and civic leadership gets its act together, like, say, merging the City and County, and some politican stands up to take the hits for the good of the Greater Metro area.

St. Louis has the tools to solve its own problems. Outside of Chicago, how many Midwest cities have a top-ten university like WashU? And so many other strong colleges and universities? Do they have the beautiful downtown buildings, and the history? I could go on and on about St. Louis' virtues. World-renowned civic institutions like the Symphony?

The problem is, the Loo just doesn't have the leadership to know how to use them.

[007]

No problem....

Anyone that knows me as a poster knows how much I love mediocrity...

[JWB]

Good post, Reb.

I've also felt that our own worst enemy was ourselves. I was telling my mom this a while back that STL has so much potential, but we never seem to take advantage of it.

[DaLode]

Originally posted by JWB@Mar 5 2004, 09:19 PM
Good post, Reb.

I've also felt that our own worst enemy was ourselves. I was telling my mom this a while back that STL has so much potential, but we never seem to take advantage of it.

Bullseye! I only go back to (laugh-track starts now) 1947 here but that's ALWAYS been the case.

For what it's worth, I've lived in S.F., L.A., Chicago, N.Y. and London and this is the BEST and most LIVABLE city of all.

A song comes to mind...............'You Don't Know What You've Got, Until You Lose It

[Schwahalala]

I could have said the same thing for at least a grand less.

Seriously - St Louis has a few of big problems when it comes to improving downtown- one is a fear of race mixing in the late hours - two is inadequate lighting and parking if the downtown area ever did catch on - three is Larry Rice - four is changing attitudes about people using the area after 6 - five is coming up with an idenity.

[007]

Larry Rice just flat out sucks....

His 'super homeless shelter' idea is ridiculous....

[Schwahalala]

Originally posted by 007@Mar 5 2004, 10:51 PM
Larry Rice just flat out sucks....

His 'super homeless shelter' idea is ridiculous....

People have no idea - how bad. How many people has he rehabilitated?
My favorite is the thanksgiving meal. He puts on flyers that if any homeless person needs a ride - give him a call and he will pick you up.

From where - somebody's home no doubt.

[Razzy]

That column by McClelland brought a lot of chuckles out of me.

Does anyone have a link to the story about the study that this dude from Malibu did on St Louis?

[Bleacher Creature]

What's so important about a "downtown". IMO, that's an idea who's time has past. Look at your sun belt cities. Take Dallas-Ft.Worth for instance. Both cities do have so-called downtown areas, but, there's not the emphasis placed on them, like the rust belt communities do. Places like Las Colinas, Arlington, and the Ft. Worth stockyard area have very viable living, busines, and entertainment areas.

[cardinalgirl]

I worry about downtown, but right now I am more concerned with the Manchester Road redevelopment plan.

I am not liking what could come of that through Kirkwood. It would affect me quite a bit. And it seems that there will be a vote coming on that, but it's not been announced that it will be on the ballot here. It's eerily quiet.

But this is stuff for me to think about later I guess.

[Celtic]

A few thoughts....

the City and County will NEVER get together. Why on earth would the county want to throw good money into a nothing place? I still think the new stadium should have gone next to 370.

The racial boundries are set and will be that way until we all die. Only Boston is more polarized.

The wealth/population of the area is moving west. There is no reason to live in the City. My grandparents place on the Hill is a bandbox. Great neighborhood but who wants to smell what the neighbors are having for dinner? (I still plan on stealing a fire hydrant from the Hill)

Staying w/ the population thread....lets say you go to a Cards game. It's 10p when the game is over. You'd like to party. You live in the county. Given the drinking and driving risks, it makes no sense to stay downtown and drink. (i am not condoning drinking and driving at all)

Whenever St. Charles county get their act together and starts to get bigger buinesses to relocate there, the good people of St. Chuck will have no reason to cross the Missouri.

[Bleacher Creature]

The racial boundaries can be broken, if people would be willing to open up their minds, and stop forming opinions based on television and the PD.

[Celtic]

Ummm kev.....people opening their minds?

Get real my friend. How many whites go to look for homes in the JeffVanderLou area? You don't need TV and the PD to tell you that would not be smart.

[Bleacher Creature]

Not many black people are looking for homes in JeffVanderLou. But, when a middle class black family moves int a mostly white area, why does the for sale signs start going up?