Renteria batting sixth for the moment

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[kaiser]

This sucks. And I knew this was gonna happen.

Hey, he'll drive in 100. Whooppee. His agent will be excited. Meanwhile batting ahead of Pujols, on-base machine Marlon Anderson.

Renteria would be the best leadoff hitter in baseball. He says he'll do whatever's best for the team. So this is no longer an issue of his "comfort" level at the top of the lineup.

But he'll bat sixth. And be stranded at second base about 1000 times again.

Rolen can drive himself in more easily than Renteria can. Same with Pujols. Same with Edmonds. But he's gonna hit behind them.

This just sucks.

[kconn]

kaiser, you have demonstrated time and time again, that in almost every situation, you have no idea what you're talking about.

On this topic, however, you are 100% correct. Or in the words of Fred Durst, I'm in agreeance with you.

It is my hope that this post by me has somehow enhanced your self-esteem. Although reading it over again, I'm not sure how it could.

Have a nice day.

[Fishbone]

Renteria should bat leadoff. Anderson should bat 7th. It shouldn't be any other way.

[FAR52]

I think So got a couple hits off that college pitcher the other day. He's earned the lead-off position.

[dhaab]

TLR strikes again! To say this man is stubborn is a gigantic understatement. Why is it so hard to fill the one huge hole on your team with the most logical replacement? :rolleyes:

[TTB]

And people wonder why there is a Faction? :rolleyes:

[BW23]

So on the eve of the exhibition season, TLR's already made his mind up.

Genius.

[Razzy]

Pujols should drive in a ton of runs with some combination of Marlon Anderson, Bo Hart, Kerry Robinson, So Tagucchi, Ray Lankford, and Greg Vaughn hitting ahead of him.

[madyaks]

Originally posted by Razzy@Mar 3 2004, 10:02 PM
Pujols should drive in a ton of runs with some combination of Marlon Anderson, Bo Hart, Kerry Robinson, So Tagucchi, Ray Lankford, and Greg Vaughn hitting ahead of him.

Yeah he will be driving in himself, none of them will be on base as often as Renteria.

[TTB]

Originally posted by Razzy@Mar 3 2004, 09:02 PM
Pujols should drive in a ton of runs with some combination of Marlon Anderson, Bo Hart, Kerry Robinson, So Tagucchi, Ray Lankford, and Greg Vaughn hitting ahead of him.

Well...he will drive himself in about 40 times or so.

[Razzy]

I dont see the Cardinals scoring as many runs as they did last year. Sanders wont replace the combined production of Drew/Perez, Renteria probably wont do as well, second base wont be a very productive position, and neither will left field (unless Pujols plays a lot out there, which I dont see happening) or catcher.

We also better hope that Edmonds and Rolen are healthy, which isnt always a sure thing with those guys. After those two, there is a huuuuuuge dropoff in production at their respective positions.

[TTB]

Originally posted by Razzy@Mar 3 2004, 09:09 PM
I dont see the Cardinals scoring as many runs as they did last year. Sanders wont replace the combined production of Drew/Perez, Renteria probably wont do as well, second base wont be a very productive position, and neither will left field (unless Pujols plays a lot out there, which I dont see happening) or catcher.

We also better hope that Edmonds and Rolen are healthy, which isnt always a sure thing with those guys. After those two, there is a huuuuuuge dropoff in production at their respective positions.

Agreed. At least the bullpen should be a little better.

[kah2523]

Well, I'm glad y'all always know the right answer. Me, I would have thought letting a guy who could drive in 100 runs drive in 100 runs might be an idea with some merit, but luckily I read this thread, which proved that such an idea was insane.

I'd probably bat him #1 or #2. But if Renteria bats seventh and drives in 100 runs, that is a GOOD SEASON, and a GOOD THING FOR THE TEAM, not something to bitch about.

Also, I'm puzzled by the assumption that we're not going to score as many runs. 2b is a hole, but it was a hole last year as well--I invite anybody to compare Marlon Anderson's stats with the stats our second baseman put up last year. Then there's Sanders. He's replacing J.D. Drew, who contributed very little, so I don't see how that's a dropoff. Then there's whoever plays LF. That person or group of people will be replacing Tino Martinez in the batting order. As this forum has conclusively established, not only is Tino a rotten, loathesome bastard (the testimony of friends such as Matt Morris aside), he's the worst baseball player ever. Surely y'all are NOT suggesting that the player/s manning LF will be a dropoff from Tino, because, as mentioned above, Tino is the worst player of all time.

So, we have six of the eight players from last year coming back. We have no real dropoff from Drew to Sanders in right. We can't possibly have a dropoff from Tino Martinez to LF.

The bench--it would have been nice to keep Eduardo Perez. I wish they had. But otherwise, it wasn't all that great last year. Go check out Orlando Palmeiro's .683 OPS, or Miguel Cairo's .665, if you don't believe me.

They might not score as many runs as last year, but I don't see why they can't, say, score as many as in 2002. The one thing that worries me is Edmonds.

Now, back to your regularly scheduled doom and gloom.

[Fishbone]

Originally posted by kah2523@Mar 3 2004, 10:05 PM
Well, I'm glad y'all always know the right answer. Me, I would have thought letting a guy who could drive in 100 runs drive in 100 runs might be an idea with some merit, but luckily I read this thread, which proved that such an idea was insane.

I'd probably bat him #1 or #2. But if Renteria bats seventh and drives in 100 runs, that is a GOOD SEASON, and a GOOD THING FOR THE TEAM, not something to bitch about.

RBIs and runs scored are team dependent statistics. Hitting behind guys with OBP of near 400 each, it is not difficult for a 300+ hitter to drive in 100 runs. It would be more beneficial to have Renteria and his 400 OBP set the table for Pujols and Edmonds than it would be to have Marlon Anderson, whose OBP will be in the 310-330 range.